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	<description>Reflections on a bus journey home</description>
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		<title>By: Babychinee</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-94632</link>
		<dc:creator>Babychinee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please help me finish my research. I neen ur help positively. I love reading your article but i need positive comments regarting 3g video call... hoping for your kind responce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please help me finish my research. I neen ur help positively. I love reading your article but i need positive comments regarting 3g video call&#8230; hoping for your kind responce</p>
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		<title>By: Jag</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-65987</link>
		<dc:creator>Jag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 12:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Tim! Great article too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Tim! Great article too!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim@Todspace</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-65830</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim@Todspace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 09:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice coverage:)
So nice that it made me link to it in my 3G article :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice coverage:)<br />
So nice that it made me link to it in my 3G article <img src='http://route79.org/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jag</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-63892</link>
		<dc:creator>Jag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rhys, &quot;see what I see when I&#039;m driving&quot; ! I never thought of doing video with phone in my hand whilst driving but I did have the idea once upon a time to mount a wireless webcam on my dashboard! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rhys, &#8220;see what I see when I&#8217;m driving&#8221; ! I never thought of doing video with phone in my hand whilst driving but I did have the idea once upon a time to mount a wireless webcam on my dashboard! <img src='http://route79.org/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rhys Lewis</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-63090</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhys Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an idea similar to Dean&#039;s a few years back, which was to use the phone microphone to judge background noise before ringing, and adjust the ringing volume to a suitable level.

I&#039;m on a plan that includes an add-on where I can get free text, video and voice to a nominated number.  I find that when there is no difference in price between them that I will choose voice for most occasions, and video as a second preference, usually when there is no-one else around me.  I particularly like holding it to the steering wheel while I&#039;m driving with the camera facing in the direction of travel.  (it&#039;s not illegal to use a mobile and drive in NZ)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an idea similar to Dean&#8217;s a few years back, which was to use the phone microphone to judge background noise before ringing, and adjust the ringing volume to a suitable level.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on a plan that includes an add-on where I can get free text, video and voice to a nominated number.  I find that when there is no difference in price between them that I will choose voice for most occasions, and video as a second preference, usually when there is no-one else around me.  I particularly like holding it to the steering wheel while I&#8217;m driving with the camera facing in the direction of travel.  (it&#8217;s not illegal to use a mobile and drive in NZ)</p>
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		<title>By: Jag</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-61254</link>
		<dc:creator>Jag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kabi, I do agree that it will get more popular as more and more &quot;barriers&quot; are removed, but there is no doubt in my mind that the expectation that person-to-person video calling will be as massively popular as regular calling is wrong on the basis of a more complex usability model.

James, thanks for the comment, there will always be exceptions to the rule! But the price issue got you in the end I suppose :-)

Malcolm: good point, I think that good &quot;composition&quot; can work in natural ways on some phones and with certain people, but having witnessed people testing the concept of video calling, I have seen that quite often people tend to hold the phone in a way that they don&#039;t when they are (say) texting or browsing. Agree that it will always be a niche thing compared to voice calling.

Michelle: I agree with you that video calling can play a very important part in certain lifetyle &quot;solutions&quot; and the examples you give are good ones. I would add also perhaps that ad-hoc remote viewing (a bit like your open the door to the plumber example) e.g. home security could be quite useful application area.

Cheers nkuli! Tilting camera might be one solution, but perhaps a separate &quot;adjunct&quot; camera which can be placed at different levels or in different places to the phone could be quite interesting.

Dean: interesting points that I hadn&#039;t thought about - especially the &quot;context-aware&quot; aspect e.g. through presence-like mechanism as you say. So agree completely re the lack of a video-calling etiquette and the tools to enable them. It would be interesting to know if there are any solutions to this that are being considered by anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kabi, I do agree that it will get more popular as more and more &#8220;barriers&#8221; are removed, but there is no doubt in my mind that the expectation that person-to-person video calling will be as massively popular as regular calling is wrong on the basis of a more complex usability model.</p>
<p>James, thanks for the comment, there will always be exceptions to the rule! But the price issue got you in the end I suppose <img src='http://route79.org/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Malcolm: good point, I think that good &#8220;composition&#8221; can work in natural ways on some phones and with certain people, but having witnessed people testing the concept of video calling, I have seen that quite often people tend to hold the phone in a way that they don&#8217;t when they are (say) texting or browsing. Agree that it will always be a niche thing compared to voice calling.</p>
<p>Michelle: I agree with you that video calling can play a very important part in certain lifetyle &#8220;solutions&#8221; and the examples you give are good ones. I would add also perhaps that ad-hoc remote viewing (a bit like your open the door to the plumber example) e.g. home security could be quite useful application area.</p>
<p>Cheers nkuli! Tilting camera might be one solution, but perhaps a separate &#8220;adjunct&#8221; camera which can be placed at different levels or in different places to the phone could be quite interesting.</p>
<p>Dean: interesting points that I hadn&#8217;t thought about &#8211; especially the &#8220;context-aware&#8221; aspect e.g. through presence-like mechanism as you say. So agree completely re the lack of a video-calling etiquette and the tools to enable them. It would be interesting to know if there are any solutions to this that are being considered by anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Bubley</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-61244</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Bubley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jag

Got to agree with all of this. And another aspect - to be really useful, you need to have motion-sensors &amp; software in the other phone to give &quot;enhanced presence information&quot;. If you can see that someone&#039;s walking briskly, don&#039;t videocall them as they&#039;ll be interrupted. Same thing if they&#039;re driving a car, or they&#039;re using a bluetooth headset at the time of the inbound call.

The problem is that there&#039;s no obvious &quot;video call&quot; etiquette for the caller, nor the tools to create one. There are times it&#039;s appropriate to make a video call, and times when it isn&#039;t. Unfortunately the present version of the technology avoids all this, and IMS won&#039;t help either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jag</p>
<p>Got to agree with all of this. And another aspect &#8211; to be really useful, you need to have motion-sensors &amp; software in the other phone to give &#8220;enhanced presence information&#8221;. If you can see that someone&#8217;s walking briskly, don&#8217;t videocall them as they&#8217;ll be interrupted. Same thing if they&#8217;re driving a car, or they&#8217;re using a bluetooth headset at the time of the inbound call.</p>
<p>The problem is that there&#8217;s no obvious &#8220;video call&#8221; etiquette for the caller, nor the tools to create one. There are times it&#8217;s appropriate to make a video call, and times when it isn&#8217;t. Unfortunately the present version of the technology avoids all this, and IMS won&#8217;t help either.</p>
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		<title>By: nkuli</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-61196</link>
		<dc:creator>nkuli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really great post. I had always considered only the other issues you considered. Do you then think a tilting front camera would be the solution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really great post. I had always considered only the other issues you considered. Do you then think a tilting front camera would be the solution?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-61150</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes there are lots of reasons why video calling  won&#039;t an shouldn&#039;t happen. but isn&#039;t this the same with every technology. People don&#039;t buy technology they buy solutions for their lives. 

Although maybe you don&#039;t want your wife to know you&#039;re in the pub you may equally wish to know that she hasn&#039;t untied herself from the kitchen sink?

I&#039;m sure the real opportunity arises from 3G Video Applications:

Maybe you want your bank to validate with you an expensive card-holder-not-present transaction thats taking place while you&#039;re travelling home on the bus.

Or you want to see the cleaner/plumber you&#039;re letting into your home whilst on the bus (using your GSM doorbell of course!)

Possibly (like the 7 million singletons in London who haven&#039;t got a partner) you&#039;re on the dating scene and want to meet other genuine adults looking to find that Miss Right. 3G Video calling is certainly going to give you the opportunity to avoid the various abusers and pretenders...

&quot;so what are you doing on the bus when you&#039;ve got a Ferrari in your garage?&quot;

&quot;why does the suit you wear to your big job in the bank look so much like a McDonalds uniform?&quot;


If you&#039;re still in any doubt i heard companies pitching the idea of blogs years ago and no one thought there was going to be anytime in the day for the mass consumer to ruminate online...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes there are lots of reasons why video calling  won&#8217;t an shouldn&#8217;t happen. but isn&#8217;t this the same with every technology. People don&#8217;t buy technology they buy solutions for their lives. </p>
<p>Although maybe you don&#8217;t want your wife to know you&#8217;re in the pub you may equally wish to know that she hasn&#8217;t untied herself from the kitchen sink?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the real opportunity arises from 3G Video Applications:</p>
<p>Maybe you want your bank to validate with you an expensive card-holder-not-present transaction thats taking place while you&#8217;re travelling home on the bus.</p>
<p>Or you want to see the cleaner/plumber you&#8217;re letting into your home whilst on the bus (using your GSM doorbell of course!)</p>
<p>Possibly (like the 7 million singletons in London who haven&#8217;t got a partner) you&#8217;re on the dating scene and want to meet other genuine adults looking to find that Miss Right. 3G Video calling is certainly going to give you the opportunity to avoid the various abusers and pretenders&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;so what are you doing on the bus when you&#8217;ve got a Ferrari in your garage?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;why does the suit you wear to your big job in the bank look so much like a McDonalds uniform?&#8221;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re still in any doubt i heard companies pitching the idea of blogs years ago and no one thought there was going to be anytime in the day for the mass consumer to ruminate online&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-61118</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, video calling is definitely a niche thing.  However, I tried seeing what my phone&#039;s (P990i) view of me looked like in a natural posture (as shown on your page, although I&#039;m a full-grown adult), and, holding the phone where I normally hold it for viewing the screen and operating it, it gives a nearly perfect framing of my face, and straight on because I&#039;m looking at it.

So I would have to say that this reason, if it applies at all, would only apply to little kids with badly designed 3G phones.

Of course, all the other reasons for not using video calling are perfectly valid ones, and why it is, and will remain, a niche thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, video calling is definitely a niche thing.  However, I tried seeing what my phone&#8217;s (P990i) view of me looked like in a natural posture (as shown on your page, although I&#8217;m a full-grown adult), and, holding the phone where I normally hold it for viewing the screen and operating it, it gives a nearly perfect framing of my face, and straight on because I&#8217;m looking at it.</p>
<p>So I would have to say that this reason, if it applies at all, would only apply to little kids with badly designed 3G phones.</p>
<p>Of course, all the other reasons for not using video calling are perfectly valid ones, and why it is, and will remain, a niche thing.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-61039</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must be the exception to the rule as I *did* video call people all the time.. But since o2 stopped their &quot;Video Calls at Voice Call prices&quot; special offer I&#039;ve stopped.  It&#039;s really not worth 50p a minute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must be the exception to the rule as I *did* video call people all the time.. But since o2 stopped their &#8220;Video Calls at Voice Call prices&#8221; special offer I&#8217;ve stopped.  It&#8217;s really not worth 50p a minute.</p>
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		<title>By: randomdude</title>
		<link>http://route79.org/journal/?p=139&#038;cpage=1#comment-60844</link>
		<dc:creator>randomdude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i kinda know what you mean, its not really been the mass thing that everyone thought it would be! only time ive really used it was about 2xmas&#039;s ago when 3 had free video calling for a month! apart from that just use it to use mates occasional video minutes that they get bundled with contracts.. i guess yeah it maybe invades on that certain bit of privacy that people want to keep to themselvs, sayin that imho it will one day take off, as it gets cheaper and as the phones get better i think it will be more appealing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i kinda know what you mean, its not really been the mass thing that everyone thought it would be! only time ive really used it was about 2xmas&#8217;s ago when 3 had free video calling for a month! apart from that just use it to use mates occasional video minutes that they get bundled with contracts.. i guess yeah it maybe invades on that certain bit of privacy that people want to keep to themselvs, sayin that imho it will one day take off, as it gets cheaper and as the phones get better i think it will be more appealing!</p>
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		<title>By: Jag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Archana! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Archana! <img src='http://route79.org/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: archana</title>
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		<dc:creator>archana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Jag  ,here I was waiting for  it to arrive in India :) )))) I am sure it won&#039;t be popular here too.Afterall who wants to show their nostrils :))))
You really have good observation  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Jag  ,here I was waiting for  it to arrive in India <img src='http://route79.org/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )))) I am sure it won&#8217;t be popular here too.Afterall who wants to show their nostrils <img src='http://route79.org/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )))<br />
You really have good observation  <img src='http://route79.org/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC: Nigel&#039;s point nicely demonstrated! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC: Nigel&#8217;s point nicely demonstrated! <img src='http://route79.org/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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